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Do you know that LB-test standards in Japan and US are different. Japane and US shared LB-test standard in the past, when original Stren (Dupont) was introduced as premium game fishing line, around 70's. Before the Stren, Japanese line was guaged by weight, not by strength. As Japanese anglers educate themselves with LB-test, most line manufacturers started to indicate LB-testing of lines. However, after they started improving their products, line standards in both countries started to divert in two ways. US line manufacturers kept the thickness and indicated LB-test remained, and advertised improved line as "stronger" line. Instead Japanese line manufacturers kept the real strength and indicated LB-test remained but manufactured lines thinner to advertise for "catching more and casting farther."
Adding to the difference in marketing strategies, IGFA (International Game Fishing Association) rule has large effect on Japanese lines. Under the IGFA rule, lines have to break before the LB-test. Japanese line manufacturers see IGFA line qualification as a quality standard, and they design line strength as close to its indicated LB-test as possible, but not exceed it. IGFA will disqualify the record, if the line used overtests.
Please take a look at following chart. Mostly, Japanese lines are 1-2 level thinner than US lines if we compare the same LB-test line. It doesn't mean Japanese lines are stronger. I believe the strengths of materials are mostly identical for basic lines. The US lines are just stronger than indicated LB-test. It is good for bass fishermen, but not good for record seeking anglers. Please make sure you use IGFA qualified line if you challenge for a record in a LB-test class.
For your reference, 4lb line in Japan is called as #1 weight line, and 8lb is #2. Currently the thinnest line available is #0.03. It is in 0.029mm dia, or 0.0011 inch. It is about a third of hair. These lines are not made of Nylon, but of metal and used only for Ayu fishing.
Полную информацию можно посмотреть здесь:
http://www.japantackle.com/Topics/japanese_silk.htm
Интересные факты: Японский шелк.
Модераторы: ШурКо, Parparon, Haikin
Так что же получается?
Одни тест занижают другие завышают?
Одни тест занижают другие завышают?
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Maniac Angler
Maniac Angler
Разный подход:Golyan писал(а):Так что же получается?
Одни тест занижают другие завышают?
US line manufacturers kept the thickness and indicated LB-test remained, and advertised improved line as "stronger" line. Instead Japanese line manufacturers kept the real strength and indicated LB-test remained but manufactured lines thinner to advertise for "catching more and casting farther
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...For your reference, I cast 1/8 trout spoon about 35-40yards when I use SeaBass PE white 15lb with 6ft 12lb nylon-leader, 6' UL rod and Shimano 2000 reel. It is like casting distance of 3lb mono line. When I use Ripcord Si 15lb, the distance seems to be reduced by more than 5 yards. ...
Recommendation
...I recommend 8-strands, thin or non-coated, white braided line for spinning reel if you will use mono-leader. ... my experiences, and for my line system (Ultimate sensitivity line system), Seabass PE >> Ripcord white > Ripcord Si = PowerPro > Fireline.
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Maniac Angler
Maniac Angler
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